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NormB
May 27, 2024
In Show and Tell
I have been futzing around with this amp for MONTHS between trips to our farm in Tennessee where we’re building (ahem, I am building) our forever home on 87 acres having fired the thieving, lying, incompetent contractor 18 months ago. It’s coming along. I got back 2 weeks ago, leave again in 3, hope to have a certificate of occupancy by September.
I decided I wanted to have TWO inputs to this amp which required a rotary switch - yeah, I could’ve just gone with a DPDT bat-handle one but, well, you know, I wanted different, and some symmetry to the front. It took a while to get the right switch - one I bought through ePay was broken internally so outputs didn’t match, returned it, then second I got through Mouser was for a PCB mount - I couldn’t get the part numbers straight so I finally spoke with tech folks at Mouser, then Grayhill, Mouser again sending a PICTURE of what I was looking for electrically to them and they special ordered one.
The original parts order went out in October, then some parts took longer to arrive than others. Knobs and some internal parts and feet and such were from Chicoms, which take weeks to a month sometimes.
Building the maple chassis for it was interesting, and the top is 3/16” carbon steel which I blackened after drilling the several holes for tubes, switches, trim pots and such.
I had originally wired it for a 5Z3 tube ‘cause I had a few on hand already, redid it for a 5ar4 (not a lot of work, just replaced the socket), actually bought the wrong OPTs for it (5-20-3.5U, not 5k, then STILL bought the wrong OPTs, H-507S which don’t have the same frequency response as the 5-20-x models and I’ll sell on ePay, have H-20-7U’s coming in shortly - I used to own some Sansui equipment in the 70’s, I like the way they sound), so I finally figured what the heck, got the final wiring together this morning, hooked it up to some desktop speakers and plugged an iPhone 13 (I use for BT streamer and keep much of my music on) while WW2 was on in the background on the Hitler channel (Memorial Day ritual). On its side so I can check voltages and temperatures.
It. Sounds. Amazing.
I’m using a $20 JJ 5AR4 rectifier right now - with cheapest sets of SOVTEK 6SN7 equivalent tubes and EH300b PTs while it burns in just in case anything burns UP - and some crappy little speakers, too. I think this was a good investment of my time and money. I have several Mullard, Amperex Bugle Boys, Telefunken and other GZ34/5AR4 tubes from the 50’s as well as same period 6SN7 and 6F8G tubes to choose from and a pair of EML 300b’s I’ve used in a Tektron 2A3/50 amp for about a year now so once I button it up and plug it into my main speakers, this will be a lot of fun while I work on my NEXT project - parts already collected with the correct OPTs this time - a pair of 2A3 monoblocks based on Level 5 2A3 SE design. Very tempting to buy a metal base Mullard circa 1955 from what I hear about them…
THANK YOU @Skunkie. This has been fun. Challenging too. Not as challenging as buliding a house, doing all the interior finish carpentry, finishing my man cave/audio room, but it has been nearly as much fun.
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NormB
Feb 03, 2024
In Questions & Answers
Probably overkill, but...
Spacing from output banana jacks/binding posts is about 3-4 inches.
I have some good, cheap, teflon-coated shielded wiring I'm thinking of using here. Does it matter? I use shielded speaker cables, why wouldn't it?
So my question is, do BOTH ends of the shield connect? One end to post, other to OPT then to ground (through the 47k, 47uF part of the circuit) or just ONE end, like shielding an AC power cable?
I'm thinking ANY extra shielding I can add to this might be of benefit. With my Willsenton R8 and Tektron TK2 2A3/50S-I amp, if I'm within a few feet of EITHER amp with a cell phone I get some interesting noise out of my speakers. All KINDS of signals coming off cell phone, and LED lights, and blue tooth, and 2.4/5gHz wifi, all the cell phone bands, local ham radio guy next door, all the rest.
Thanks.
https://flic.kr/p/2pw73bZ(https://flic.kr/p/2pw73bZ)
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NormB
Feb 02, 2024
In Show and Tell
White block is heat sink ceramic for better/more thermal conduction.
I chose 50mm for spacing. Drilled holes in scrap wood as a template and some Kynar shielded wire for output to filaments. Maybe not necessary, but I had it around and it can't hurt.
First, flip rectifier over to line up ++ and -- with VR, bend leads outward to align, put on some heat shrink for insulation, solder. Bend center AC leads UP and away from center. You can solder these easily once the units are mounted inside. leads are all about 3-5mm off the plane of the steel plate I used for the amp. top, no shorts/insulation required but it's good practice I think to put heat-shrink insulation on where I can "just in case."
Now attach tantalum 10uF cap. 22uF and output leads. Large filter cap leads are bent and cut about 5mm wider than the "rails"; insert one side under one rail and twist to get other side under previously soldered Ground - you might need to use a pair of needle-nosed pliers taking care to get capacitors/components in order: Rectifier out-6800uF Electrolytic cap-10uF Tant. Cap.- VR- 22uF Tant Cap - output. The 10uF cap in one pic close to the insulation was moved forward a bit for the 6800 uF cap. They work great.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/196901277@N08/shares/G9C7d39SWT(https://www.flickr.com/photos/196901277@N08/shares/G9C7d39SWT)
Now to build another one.
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NormB
Jan 23, 2024
In Show and Tell
Bear with me a moment while I explain.
I was looking for a source for Type 50 tubes (used, new) and came across PXVANE WR50 new mfr.
I've used PSVANE EL34 tubes in a Willsenton R8 amp, they're not awful, cheap backups.
I read several articles on PSVANE tubes (good, bad, ugly), but in my searching I came across this website as the 18th or 20th link: https://www.newportboardgroupllc.net/(https://www.newportboardgroupllc.net/)
I had a friend once who was a purchasing agent, buying/selling overstock, warehouse sales, out-of-business/bankruptcy sales brokering deals at ridiculous prices ("ten thousand cans of blueberries at a profit of 10 cents a can for me adds up to a Corvette in my garage," he once said) so I wasn't surprised to see a set of tubes selling for $400 elsewhere ($320 best price on Aliexpress) for $77 a PAIR here.
I had a similar experience recently with looking for Hashimoto OPTs - too good to be true, I mean and I didn't buy - so I dug deeper.
The address given is on a corner lot farm property in northern Wisconsin somewhere. Not unreasonable as in modern-day e-commerce one can work out of their car with the right tech.
A search on "WHOIS" shows very interesting details, as the group is registered in California (Godaddy, same as I use), but ultimate ownership seems to be someone in Singapore.
That's Singapore SE Asia, not Singapore Wisconsin.
I tried sending email but the link was broken as were most of the other info/FAQ links.
I use BRAVE browser so no popups or other nasties got loaded onto my iPad.
Sure is tempting but, this isn't blueberries and no telling what I might get, paypal/bank accounts hacked and drained, a box of broken glass and metal, no box at all.
Just FYI and wondering if anyone has come across this site?
This "New World Disorder" is fascinating.
Norm
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NormB
Jan 18, 2024
In Questions & Answers
Intro: Stephe's original BOM called for the EDCOR trafo (as our EU friends call them, and it's easier to type) which developed a short.
Note where the 50+ volt bias is coming off the 6.3 VAC winding.
Enter the Hammond 273BX which was wired differently (from Mouser.com'(http://Mouser.com)s page)
Red/Yellow "High Voltage" is reference ground for Red/Red, NOT 50 VAC. 50 VAC comes off the GRN/YEL for Filament #2 and does go to ground in the bias circuit.
HERE is my question:
From the Hammond 374BX data sheet (https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/177/300-951115.pdf)(https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/177/300-951115.pdf):
First: IGNORE Filament #1 (refer to PDF if any questions), there are only two LV outs on this model.
Second, the 50 VAC comes from between the two RED HV lines, Red/Yel goes to ground.
Third: YEL/YEL goes to rectifier heater, CT Yel/Blk not used.
On the 274BX the Grn/Yel line between the two GRN 6.3 VAC is for 50 VAC.
Does it (Grn/Yel) go to ground for the 374BX as reference ground for the GRN/GRN leads to the 6SN7 heaters??
If the answer is obvious, and yes, please affirm.
I've looked at several dozen different schematics for tube amps from Aiken, Robinette, Valvewizard to Stephe and many others and see a YUGE variation in how different amps/trafos get wired so this has me confused enough to post before I finish wiring what I've started.
Thanks in advance.
Norm
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